Let me add I find the whole idea of profiling your own amp collection in order to get good sounds preposterous.I'll just use my amp then, thanks...
Let me add I find the whole idea of profiling your own amp collection in order to get good sounds preposterous.
Seven Moons said:As Andy said, I guess the Kemper is just as good as the profiles you feed him with. That's why listening to Wolf Hoffmann's killer tone, which has certainly involved a lot of work and expert trickery, probably won't give a realistic idea of the Kemper's possibilities for a more standard user...
Andy G said:
Like many things, you could get used to it. I've been playing through it all evening and it's sounding better. Then of course I had to go and plug my Laney back in... And the illusion was gone. There's great versatility with the Katana and just like the Kemper or a Rockman or Pod, if you're prepared to tailor your playing accordingly, you could be happy with it, I'm quite sure.This is a good amp. Quite amazing for the money. Seems well made too. If I can get some good lead tones from it, I'll let you guys know, but so far I can't see it being a keeper. Massive respect to Boss though!
Andy,I don't think you actually need to play through your amp to make a profile on the Kemper, there just an impulse response (kind of a signal sweeping all frequencies) applied to your rig and recorded and it takes only 1mn, so your playing style is not involved at all in this process (at least this is the case in Axe Fx). However there are a few issues:1. This is a recording made with a microphone on your cab: so Michael Wagener is probably better at doing this, than me slapping a SM57 at random distance on my cab. In addition, I bet he knows the tricks applied to recording that will make your profile better (more realistic).2. Kemper of Katana rendering the "nuances" in your playing: the technology isn't there yet, because the algorithm is emulating the overall response, but probably cannot at that point handle the "transcient" events caused by "aggressive" playing. Some other aspects that are beyond the theoretical electronic schematic are not there yet: for example my tube amp sounds better after 10-15mn: that is something inherent to the tubes that cannot be modeled during a 1mn profiling session. I know you can profile the amp when it is warmed up, but you see my point: not every aspect of the tube amp is modeled 100%.3. Rendering: after the processing unit has done the digital work, you need to rely on a "real" amplifier and a "real" speaker to hear the sound out of the Kemper. There you're are stuck with the same limitations/defaults that the simulation is supposed to overcome.
Andy G said:
He told me that he's going to sell his amps. I know that's what the theory was for a lot of Kemper users, but I don't know many (any) that actually did replace their amps (even if they profiled them first). But the Amplifire is newer technology and a different approach. Rob Chapman played through one and compared it directly to the Kemper, saying the KPA was "almost there", but the Amplifire really does feel like a real amp. We shall see... Hopefully I will be able to find out for myself, as I should be getting one to try out today
Had the chance to play the Katana combo at home. It's an OK practice amp I guess.I only spent about 30 minutes with it.
Amplifire looks like a competitor to the Axe8, but it still uses IR for speakers so I don't think there is a "revolution" in the modeling. Seems that they're trying to get away with the millions of parameters available in the AxeFx/Kemper by putting "real" knobs on a pedalboard shaped device.If you have a good amp at home (like an old Marshall, SLO, Mesa, Bogner,,,) it will be worth something in a few years (even if digital technology render them useless, collectors/nostalgia will buy them). On the other hand as soon as the next version of any modeler is out, the old version value will decrease very quickly, especially as the firmware will not to be upgraded for too long.
yngwie666 said:My rule is no more than 10 minutes to find a sound I like on an (analog) amp, otherwise I'll move on. Might be longer on a digital one with more parameters.
The louder we set it, the worse the sounds became.