nhd (New headphones Day).

AgrippaAgrippa Posts: 5,928
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I'm not rich, by any means, but I have a few papers, and I realized a bunch this autum and got a small handful of money, so I went out, and treated myself to new flat screen smart TV, a shelf for my Rega Planar 3 turntable and new headphones and a rega headphone amp.
I bought these Grado RS2i headphones.
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They are simply amazing. The first record I put on was Jethro Tull's "Songs from the Woods", the 3D feel is astounding, I closed my eyes and it was like Ian anderson was singing right in front of my face, beard and all, and the choir was like all around me. After side 1, I put on Pink Floyds Animals, and Gilmour was playing acoustic guitar in my living room and I could all but see Roger Waters cynical sarcastic scowl as he sang.

These are true magic, and the sales person told me they needed some hundred hours playing to reach their max potential.
They get BETTER than this ???

All my old, and many of my new, vinyls are beeing played intensively these dark january days.

On Led Zeps "in through the out door", I can clearly hear that one of Bonhams pedals squeek, is in need of oil. It gives a great live feeling.

My god, music is therapeutic, and in a world of lap top speakers, youtube vids, Ipods and mp3s and not enough time to really listen we sometimes forget how big a blessing music really is.

Yes, they are expensive, no, they are not useful with your Iphone but my goodness they are addictive.

My oldest son who where out shopping with me when I bought these, bought a pair of Sennheisers latest series, Urbanite XL, great 'phones too, way more comfortable than the the Grados, but not in the same Hi-Fi league soundwise, at all.
They have this cool "interchangeable cable" thing going. When you fuck up the minijack, which you ultimately will, using mobile gear in a pocket or purse, you just buy a new cable, instead of a new set of headphones. Quite ingenius.

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  • Yeah, as these headphones are more for hi-fidelity than for use as studio headphones, I moved the topic.

    Coincidentally, yesterday, I got a pair of these high-end, wireless-through-bluetooth earbuds.
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    They sound pretty good and integrate with the phone.  At least as good as the standard Apple earbuds. Gonna see how they do on the cross country trip to NAMM tomorrow. They supposedly have an 8 hour battery life. We shall see.  Hopefully I won't lose them.
    In the midst of the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.
  • Seven MoonsSeven Moons Posts: 8,777
    Congrats!  Good headphones can make a world of difference, even with mp3s/CDs/non-audiophile players.  For those who would be looking to a cheap and lightweight solution, I strongly recommend the AKG K420. Of course, it won't hold against a high-end one, but it's amazing for its price (50€). You need a fairly quiet environment, though (it's not insulating in the least). Also, the model has been discontinued, but some online stores still have it in stock (I've bought TWO spare ones...)

    [img height=400]http://zaplist.in/image/cache/products/JBL-AKG-K420/4-800x800.jpg[/img]
  • MAdXMAdX Posts: 1,993
    Cool! Would love to have a set of hifi headphones!

    I don't want to hijack the thread here, but I'm curious if anyone can recommend a set of bang for the buck studio headphones?

    I bought myself an interface for home recording (finally!), which I'm going to use for demos. My budget is about 150 €.
  • VenomboyVenomboy Posts: 3,601
    I'm looking for new ones.

    I need over the ear that are comfortable. I have AKG240 for home recording. I don't take them anywhere because they're not folding or very portable.

    I have a pair of Audio Technica ATH-ANC7 which are noise canceling and sound great, but are too small for my ears. I'm looking at some Sennheiser and other Audio Technicas. Way too many choices. I'll let you know what I wind up with. I might just order a ton from Amazon and keep the winner.
  • VenomboyVenomboy Posts: 3,601
    Ordered a bunch from Amazon today, with Prime shipping, they arrive weds. I'll be on a flight next week where I'll test the final 1-2 contenders out. I didn't break the $300 mark with any of these. The Blue Microphones MoFi were tempting; maybeyes and tried them at NAMM. Awesome sound but a bit bulky. Those will be a last resort. Full report later.
  • maybeyesmaybeyes Posts: 4,522
    The MOFIs were definitely sweet.  I need in ears for traveling though.  Just can't deal with the bulk even when they fold away.  Let us know how the shootout goes Art.  Curious about which ones goe up against each other in the final listening event.

    Never mistake a clear view for a short distance.

  • VenomboyVenomboy Posts: 3,601
    So I bought a bunch of headphones from Amazon. The last batch arrives tomorrow.

    Overall they sound good. Some are amazing, some aren't. I'm kinda torturing myself with this but what the hell, free shipping and I can't find all these locally or try them before I buy them.

    Potential Keepers:

    Audio Technica ATH-M50X
    Audio Technica ATH-M40X
    http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50x-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00HVLUR86
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVLUR54/ref=psdc_172541_t3_B00HVLUR86
    The sound of these are amazing. Everything is very clear and separate. Lots of bass but not annoying. The highs are crazy clear. These don't need an amp like some idiot Amazon reviewers claim. At 75% volume on my iPhone 6 Plus, they're damn near deafening. The fit is ok. They're a bit heavy and the headband gives some pressure. The earpieces feel fine. I wish they were a bit more comfortable. I'm hearing things in all genres of music that I never knew existed.


    Not Keeping:

    Sennheiser HD 380 Pro
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UE6I0G/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Sennheiser PXC 450 (noise cancelling)
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000R2PC2M/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    The fit is good but not digging the sound. Compared to the AT's, these don't sound all that great. The 450 sounds better than the 380 to me but they kinda have a bit of an AM radio feel in comparison to the AT's.

    Audio Technica ATH-ANC70 (noise cancelling)
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FJ1HFGC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Love the fit, but they sound like crap. They aren't defective but they sound really scooped and compressed. Hated them immediately.


    On the Fence:

    Audio Technica ATH-ANC9 (noise cancelling)
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KWLF5K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    I have an older version of these with slightly smaller earpieces that are more on ear than over the ear; these kinda hurt my ears and top of my head. These fit better and don't hurt my ears. The sound is good, slightly scooped but not annoying. They offer 3 levels of noise cancellation. The on/off switch is a little buggy so if I keep them I'd have to exchange for a new pair. Pretty light and comfortable. They don't sound as good as the AT50X and 40X but aren't bad at all.

    Sennheiser HD 598
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042A8CW2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    These are super comfortable. I dig the 70s color scheme. Very lightweight. No pressure points. The sound is good. Less pronounced bass than the AT50X and 40X. They are an open back design so anyone near you can hear your music fairly well. If these sounded like the AT50X they would be the keeper for sure. I'm worried about the open back because I intend to use these on the plane. Will the plane's ambient noise drown out the sound? Don't know. The HD380 above has a similar design but aren't nearly as comfortable; they're a lot tighter. The standard plug is a 1/4" massive barrel with a huge grip. The 1/8" plug also has a huge grip that doesn't quite fit my iPhone case.

    Got a Sony and Philips pair coming in friday and then I'll make my final decision.

    The amazon reviews for these are all over the place. I usually look for the common good and bad traits in reviews. Many low ranking reviews are 1 sentence, poor grammar, etc. Again, NONE of these need a headphone amp for an iPhone.

  • For what it's worth, the new wireless earbuds are pretty good. 

    The sound and the controls are good. Good bass response.
    The claimed battery life of 8 hours was more like 4 hours -- as I found on the flights across country to NAMM.
    They give you 3 tip sizes to fit your ear canal, and all of them feel a bit odd if you're used to Apple earbuds, cause they go in deeper. Still they don't stay in great.

    As far as convenience goes, they are pretty good until you have to take one out, then you have to figure what to do with them. 

    I'm looking forward to a day when they won't need a wire connecting the two buds, and there will just be two pieces like ear plugs.
    In the midst of the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.
  • VenomboyVenomboy Posts: 3,601
    Ok, tried a few more.

    Sony MDR1R
    http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR1R-Premium-Over--Headphones/dp/B009A6CZ30/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1423269983&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+mdr-1r
    These are beautiful. Nice black chrome-ish metal and red alloy accents. Very lightweight and super comfortable. They sound really good too. The treble is a bit rolled off, good bass definition. A bit darker than the AT50x and 40x. Not as sparkly. Sounds good for all music. Some metal songs via the AT's is a bit too, I dunno, hifi? Some screeching highs. These are on the keeper list for sure.

    Philips Fidelio L1-28
    http://www.amazon.com/Philips-L1-28-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B006RUIWC0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1423270226&sr=8-1&keywords=philips+fidelio
    Beautiful, but just too uncomfortable. They really compressed my head. Sound is good but they're partial open back. Not a keeper.

  • MAdXMAdX Posts: 1,993
    [quote author=Venomboy link=topic=17062.msg258323#msg258323 date=1423210343]
    So I bought a bunch of headphones from Amazon. The last batch arrives tomorrow.

    Overall they sound good. Some are amazing, some aren't. I'm kinda torturing myself with this but what the hell, free shipping and I can't find all these locally or try them before I buy them.

    Potential Keepers:

    Audio Technica ATH-M50X
    Audio Technica ATH-M40X
    http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50x-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00HVLUR86
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVLUR54/ref=psdc_172541_t3_B00HVLUR86
    The sound of these are amazing. Everything is very clear and separate. Lots of bass but not annoying. The highs are crazy clear. These don't need an amp like some idiot Amazon reviewers claim. At 75% volume on my iPhone 6 Plus, they're damn near deafening. The fit is ok. They're a bit heavy and the headband gives some pressure. The earpieces feel fine. I wish they were a bit more comfortable. I'm hearing things in all genres of music that I never knew existed.


    Not Keeping:

    Sennheiser HD 380 Pro
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UE6I0G/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Sennheiser PXC 450 (noise cancelling)
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000R2PC2M/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    The fit is good but not digging the sound. Compared to the AT's, these don't sound all that great. The 450 sounds better than the 380 to me but they kinda have a bit of an AM radio feel in comparison to the AT's.

    Audio Technica ATH-ANC70 (noise cancelling)
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FJ1HFGC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Love the fit, but they sound like crap. They aren't defective but they sound really scooped and compressed. Hated them immediately.


    On the Fence:

    Audio Technica ATH-ANC9 (noise cancelling)
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KWLF5K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    I have an older version of these with slightly smaller earpieces that are more on ear than over the ear; these kinda hurt my ears and top of my head. These fit better and don't hurt my ears. The sound is good, slightly scooped but not annoying. They offer 3 levels of noise cancellation. The on/off switch is a little buggy so if I keep them I'd have to exchange for a new pair. Pretty light and comfortable. They don't sound as good as the AT50X and 40X but aren't bad at all.

    Sennheiser HD 598
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042A8CW2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    These are super comfortable. I dig the 70s color scheme. Very lightweight. No pressure points. The sound is good. Less pronounced bass than the AT50X and 40X. They are an open back design so anyone near you can hear your music fairly well. If these sounded like the AT50X they would be the keeper for sure. I'm worried about the open back because I intend to use these on the plane. Will the plane's ambient noise drown out the sound? Don't know. The HD380 above has a similar design but aren't nearly as comfortable; they're a lot tighter. The standard plug is a 1/4" massive barrel with a huge grip. The 1/8" plug also has a huge grip that doesn't quite fit my iPhone case.

    Got a Sony and Philips pair coming in friday and then I'll make my final decision.

    The amazon reviews for these are all over the place. I usually look for the common good and bad traits in reviews. Many low ranking reviews are 1 sentence, poor grammar, etc. Again, NONE of these need a headphone amp for an iPhone.


    [/quote]

    Cool review!

    I had the Sennheiser HD-380 Pro on my shortlist but maybe there are better options. Would you say there is a big noticeable difference between the M40X and M50X? There's a €42 difference in price at Thomann.
  • Jay GJay G Posts: 2,677
    I recently bought a pair of $100 in ear Beats and was pleasantly surprised how comfortable and good sounding they were for IPod/IPhone listening on planes etc.  While not necessarily noise canceling they do a good job of keeping outside sounds out.
  • VenomboyVenomboy Posts: 3,601
    Both ATs sound great. If you only heard one you'd be happy.

    The 50x has earcups with more rotation. They are a hair larger and the headband has slightly more padding. The highs are more pronounced and more sparkly. The 40x sounds a bit darker and seems to emphasize bass more. They are both awesome and the separation between sounds is amazing.

    The 380s sounded like an AM radio in comparison. The 598 sounds better and is more comfortable. The only drawback is the open back design which is only a concern if you're in tight quarters.
  • VenomboyVenomboy Posts: 3,601
    These headphones sound like crap:
    V-MODA Crossfade LP2
    http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Crossfade-Over-Ear-Noise-Isolating-Headphone/dp/B00HYH7HXA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1423600624&sr=8-1&keywords=vmoda+lp2

    Lots of bass that isn't very well defined, scooped mids and almost no high end. On metal songs I can barely hear the vocals. I even changed the ear pads to larger ones. No help at all. These aren't defective, just EQ'd in the most stupid manner possible. Pop stuff sounds ok through them. They look good, have a really nice case, cloth braided cables, etc. Comfortable too. I feel like they are the Monster Energy Drink of headphones. All style, and a promise that is nothing but lies. One reviewer on Amazon said "after 600 HOURS of burn in, they sound great." WTF? What a load of crap. It's like the EQ curve is a ramp to hell starting at the upper left and quickly descending to the lower right.

    I'm definitely keeping the Sony's and the AT 50x headphones. I wore the Sony's on a flight today. They sound good and are comfortable. They don't cancel noise but they don't let it all in, either.
  • Duojett71Duojett71 Posts: 9,456
    [quote author=Venomboy link=topic=17062.msg258499#msg258499 date=1423600890]
    These headphones sound like crap:
    V-MODA Crossfade LP2
    http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Crossfade-Over-Ear-Noise-Isolating-Headphone/dp/B00HYH7HXA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1423600624&sr=8-1&keywords=vmoda+lp2

    Lots of bass that isn't very well defined, scooped mids and almost no high end. On metal songs I can barely hear the vocals. I even changed the ear pads to larger ones. No help at all. These aren't defective, just EQ'd in the most stupid manner possible. Pop stuff sounds ok through them. They look good, have a really nice case, cloth braided cables, etc. Comfortable too. I feel like they are the Monster Energy Drink of headphones. All style, and a promise that is nothing but lies. One reviewer on Amazon said "after 600 HOURS of burn in, they sound great." WTF? What a load of crap. It's like the EQ curve is a ramp to hell starting at the upper left and quickly descending to the lower right.

    I'm definitely keeping the Sony's and the AT 50x headphones. I wore the Sony's on a flight today. They sound good and are comfortable. They don't cancel noise but they don't let it all in, either.
    [/quote]

    I was interested in those headphones. We have them at work. I thought they were a little bass heavy to. I plugged them into my phone and I liked them on the couple songs I listened to....but that probably isn't a great representation. I loved how comfortable they are. Apparently the step up from those sound better:

    http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Crossfade-Over-Ear-Noise-Isolating-Headphone/dp/B00A39PPCG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424163236&sr=8-1&keywords=Vmoda

    I have not tested those out yet but plan to. They also fold for a more compact storage. They are expensive but I get them for about half that. I need to compare them to other headphones in the same range. I will probably check out the others you listed as well if we have them.
  • VenomboyVenomboy Posts: 3,601
    Try a bunch of different songs. For non metal the V Modas were fine. For just about any metal they had no upper mids and rolled of treble. I wanted to like them but they were just bad. The Sennheiser Urbanites are bass heavy but not in a bad way. And they are comfortable too.
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