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  • Best Reverb for High Gain Leads

    I had the Big Sky for a while but I never cared much for it. Wouldn't surprise me if the Flint is better.
  • Best Reverb for High Gain Leads

    I also use the Flint and can confirm that the plate setting sounds killer.
  • Best Reverb for High Gain Leads

    FWIW, just to weigh in on your original question, I generally prefer plate-style reverbs for high-gain playing. Something about the overall character of plate takes distortion very well, at least in my opinion. I love spring reverb too, but I find it can get too busy with lots of distortion, and that hall reverbs get a little whistle-y. For me, plate is the go-to choice. 

    I also really love the plate sound on the Strymon Flint specifically. No one ever looks at that pedal and thinks dinosaur rock, but the plate sound is perfect for distortion. I put FX loops in my 50-watt JCM800s, and I've been running the Flint in there for years, and it rules. 

    Also note that even though Strymon has multiple reverb pedals that appear to overlap somewhat, they each use different algorithms for spring, plate, etc. So the plate sound in the Flint is unique, and the plate sound in the BigSky or whatever will be different. 
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    A little 80's pop 




  • Best Reverb for High Gain Leads

    Haffner said:
    Interesting, both you and Andy have some common favorite guitarists, yet one seems to mostly favor delay over reverb and the other vice versa.
    As Dave said, he and I are most likely going after different things. And whilst we do both like many of the same players, I think Dave likes more 70s stuff than I do, and I think I like a few more higher gain and modern metal things than he does. Oh, and Dave adores power amp distortion, whilst I can't stand it! :lol: so whilst we have common ground, there are also fundamental differences.

    It's a conscious decision on my part to (usually) eschew delay - even though a lot of the guys I like use it - the sound I hear in my head just doesn't have it. I just use reverb to give some life and air to the sound and smooth it somewhat. I should add that I usually don't use reverb on rhythm tracks, unless it's a gentle reverb that I add as "glue" to an overall mix, or if a rhythm part is going to be heard on its own.  

    Also (as I'm sure is the case for Dave too) for me it's a case-by-case basis. I remember about 3 or 4 years ago, I was asked to do a guest solo on a sort of Celtic rock song which gave me a lot of room to play over. I sent my solo dry of course, so they could mix it how they wanted, but the example mix that I did for them had a load of delay on it - it's just how I heard it.

    Something that may be of interest... I recently got a BluGuitar Amp1 Iridium, which is designed for modern, high gain metal. Thomas Blug took heed of what a lot of people were saying about how the original Amp1 and the Mercury edition just couldn't do the modern tones that some people were trying to get from it... One of the changes was ditching the spring reverb for a room reverb, and also changing how the noise gate works - it works specifically WITH the reverb. If you switch off the reverb, the noise gate clamps shut for fast, tight riffing (it assumes you're doing rhythm work), but if you switch the reverb on, the gate allows more sustained notes, because it assumes you're playing lead. It's very simple... but it shows how the designers are expecting you to play, and as the amp was designed based on feedback from modern high gain players, it's also what they wanted from an amp - and it does it exactly how I do it. Dry rhythm, wet(-ish) lead.
  • Best Reverb for High Gain Leads

    For years back in the early/mid 80s I had no reverb at all but used to leave my Boss DM2 on all the time with a couple of very quiet repeats at its slowest rate which was 300m/s. At the time my old Marshall was very clean so all my distortion came from a maxed out MXR Dist+. The Delay was always post distortion as to my ears it always sounded crap in front. Over the years I've gotten so used to that sound, that its sort of became a fundamental of my tone so I always have a quiet delay in the fx loop that's on most of the time. So nowadays with my current set up reverb is a nice optional extra but I dont really need it. If I'm recording at home, something I rarely do I may use some, but for live things get too mushy with delay and reverb particularly if its a backline only gig so usually I'll dial it out.
  • Best Reverb for High Gain Leads

    We usually do that via automation.
  • Best Reverb for High Gain Leads

    I think you'll hear delays in most leads from the 80s, it always surprises me when listening to isolated guitar tracks, how wet they are with delay and reverb, in the mix everything sounds more subtle.
    I think they key to using delay is to have a dark sounding delay, that kinda sits behind your dry tone and doesn't live in the same frequency range. Analog and tape delays (or emulations) usually do this. Other delays have their own eq to achieve this. Another option is what they call "dynamic delays" that fades in when you play a long note or stop playing,  and fades to the background when you play faster
  • Best Reverb for High Gain Leads


    Haffner
     said:
    Interesting, both you and Andy have some common favorite guitarists, yet one seems to mostly favor delay over reverb and the other vice versa.
    I DO use reverb for recording on my rhythm guitars. Not a lot, usually, just enough to add some life. But remember, like most folks, I usually pan my rhythm guitars hard left and right. The solo goes up the middle. So the verb is on the sides and the delay is in the middle. Somehow, we all perceive this as perfectly natural/good sounding (if we're not over analyzing it). 

    What I said was I don't tend to use reverb on the leads -- because they're gonna have the echo or delay.


    As for using delay on leads . . . 
    Andy G said:
    In some ways it makes things harder, because everything is naked and on display - if you fluff something, no matter how small, you're more likely to hear it.
    Andy's a LOT more facile, precise player than I am with way better chops. Andy doesn't need a "forgiving" environment as much as I do.  ;)  He can use reverb so his leads aren't bone dry, and still achieve what he's after. And what he's after isn't necessarily the same thing I'm after.  After all, this is all about personal preference and carving out your own, individual, thing.  

    I'm not using echo or delay as a crutch. If it smooths my playing out a bit and makes things easier so I get a better performance, I certainly don't mind those aspects of it.  But every solo I record I can absolutely play live -- I'd have it no other way. I'm using delay because I like that effect when I hear it on lead work by Gary, Schenker, Sykes, Blackmore, etc. That effect becomes part of the canvas, and sometimes even the composition.  I don't think anyone would suggest those guys are hiding behind delay. I think even YJM uses delay, doesn't he?
  • Sometimes, I just Don't Know

    What the Hell I'm thinking :s

    I used this instrument on 2 cds. Almost exclusively.. I obtained it in 2006. I absolutely loved this guitar for 5+ yrs I guess and then suddenly decided I could find better.. So off to storage she went.  So,,,, lately in preparation for the great thinning of the herd I cracked open the HUGE diamond plated flight case it came in and within 30 seconds I was embarrassingly in "WTF was I thinking" mode.. I've played every instrument I own recently.. Evaluated each in a few different categories..

    What the hell was I thinking? :#

     This IS undoubtedly my #1..